John Irish

Male 1745 - 1777  (31 years)


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  • Name John Irish  [1
    Born 21 Sep 1745  Town of Pawling, Dutchess Co., NY Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Book Reference 7770  
    Died 27 Jul 1777  Tinmouth, Rutland Co., VT Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Notes 
    • From: W. L. Irish - He was shot by Isaac Clark, although "His character was without reproach". On 5-20-1775, he bought a farm from his brother, Jonathan, in "Danby, County of Charlotty, Providence of N. Y."

      From: Joe Travis
      So who is 'Isaac Clark'?
    • There are many versions of the story. This is fairly detailed so I am including it. However, Irish family stories state that it was a deliberate shooting and that John Irish had character that was above reproach. There is an eyewitness account by his widow as well indicating it was deliberate. Clark had an illustrious career thereafter.
      Later in July 1777 the Irish family did become loyalists. Peter Irish spent the remainder of the war taking people to safety in Canada through the Vermont woods. He was put in jail for many years after the war. I have no idea how many years that means.

      Tinmouth History

      John Irish and his tragic fate merit some attention from the historian. He and his brother William lived in the north part of the town on adjoining farms, and built their houses but a little distance apart and near the road which ran parallel to the line fence between their farms. When the news of the surrender of Ticonderoga reached Tinmouth on the 1st of July, 1777, a great part of the inhabitants started southward into Arlington, Shaftsbury and Bennington. Those who did remain on their farms sought protection, as a rule, from Burgoyne. Among these were the two brothers Irish. A little later the council of safety sent a scouting party consisting of Captain Ebenezer Allen, Lieutenant Isaac Clark, and John Train and Phineas Clough, private soldiers, into Tinmouth to learn what was going on among the "Protectioners" and to reconnoiter a Tory camp in East Clarendon. These men were personal acquaintances of the Irish brothers. When the party arrived in the west part of Tinmouth they were informed that it was suspected the two brothers were about joining the Tories and that the shortest route to the Clarendon camp would pass their dwellings.
      They accordingly took that road. As they approached Irish's clearing, Allen directed Clough to give his gun to Train, go on and ask William Irish the nearest road to the Tory camp, at the same time telling him that he (Clough) had decided to go and join the Tories. When Clough arrived at the house he found both brothers and made the statement according to his orders. Clough was told that he must consider himself a prisoner; that they would see about his joining the Tories. William then directed John to take Clough home with him, and he would soon follow and help take care of him. John had an Indian tomahawk in his hand and told Clough to walk along with him; they walked on toward John's house, he with the uplifted tomahawk in his hand. When Allen saw this from his place of concealment, he said to Train: "We must get as near as we can to John's house without being discovered." He and Train started by one path and Clark crawled along behind the brush fence, the three meeting near the house undiscovered. Here Allen gave directions that under no circumstances was either of them to fire until he did. He then stationed himself about two rods north of the path; Clark about the same distance south of it, and Train fifteen or twenty rods farther east, all being hidden behind trees. They had not waited long before Clough stepped from the door and, after looking about, started for the woods. He had got partly over the fence when Irish came out, partly dressed, with a gun in one hand and powder-horn in the other. He called out to Clough to stop or he would shoot him. While in the act of raising his gun, apparently, to carry out the threat, Allen shot him through his left hand, knocking his gun from him. Irish then turned around so as to face Clark, who shot him through the heart. The party, after killing Irish, went on to Clarendon, and after reconnoitering the Tory camp, returned to Arlington.
      It is, perhaps, proper to state that different versions of this affair have been given, one of which is to the effect that Allen went to the dwelling-place of Irish for the express purpose of killing him; but the details as given above come down to us upon the authority of judge Obadiah Noble, and probably should be given credence.

      History of Rutland County Vermont: with Illustrations &
      Biographical Sketches of Some of Its Prominent Men and Pioneers
      Edited by H. Y. Smith & W. S. Rann
      Syracuse, N. Y.
      D. Mason & Co., Publishers 1886
      CHAPTER XL.
      History of the Town of Tinmouth
      (Pages - 819 - 831)
      Transcribed by Karima 2002
    Person ID I05384  Irish
    Last Modified 17 Jun 2011 

    Father Jesse Irish,   b. 26 Sep 1712, Tiverton, Newport Co., RI Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1784, Danby, Rutland Co., VT Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 71 years) 
    Mother Mary Albee,   b. 12 Apr 1710, Mendon, Worcester Co., MA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 29 May 1792, Danby, Rutland Co., VT Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age > 82 years) 
    Married 21 Mar 1732/33 
    Documents
    Vital Record of RI Vol IV - Little Compton marriages
    Vital Record of RI Vol IV - Little Compton marriages
    Family ID F0573  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Rebecca Doty,   b. 1756,   d. 1 Jun 1836  (Age 80 years) 
    Married 1772 
    Children 
     1. Lucretia Irish,   b. 1774
     2. Joseph Irish,   b. 7 Sep 1775
     3. Rhoda Irish,   b. Abt Apr 1777
    Family ID F2174  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Event Map
    Link to Google MapsBorn - 21 Sep 1745 - Town of Pawling, Dutchess Co., NY Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsDied - 27 Jul 1777 - Tinmouth, Rutland Co., VT Link to Google Earth
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  • Histories
    History of Rutland County, Vermont - Town of Tinmouth
    History of Rutland County, Vermont - Town of Tinmouth
    History of Rutland County Vermont: with Illustrations &
    Biographical Sketches of Some of Its Prominent Men and Pioneers
    Edited by H. Y. Smith & W. S. Rann Syracuse, N. Y.
    D. Mason & Co., Publishers 1886
    CHAPTER XL. History of the Town of Tinmouth
    (Pages - 825 - 826)
    The History and Map of Danby, Vermont
    The History and Map of Danby, Vermont
    By: J. C. Williams - 1869
    Printed by McLean & Robbins, 1869
    Pages 171-176

  • Sources 
    1. [S007136] Descendants of John Irish 1629-1963, Willis L. Irish.